Safely back, tanned and rested. Well, 2 out of 3 ain’t bad. My destination remains a secret although that means I am fending off comments about holidays in Skegness. But it included my nephew’s Barmitzvah and lots of deli sandwiches (clue).
In the past few weeks lots of you will have handed over cheques ranging from between £7,000 to £12,000 (approx) for your BVC courses. Will you get value for money?
I have done some research which I set out below:
ICSL – £12,770 4
College of Law London/Birmingham – £12,080/£9,900
Northumberland – £7,000
BPP London/Leeds – Not published on website but £13,000 – which may explain the silence (Thanks to Seahorse)
Cardiff – Not published but £8,000 + (thanks to Rhadamanthus)
Nottingham – £9,700
Bristol – £8,600
ICSL – 4 as a rebate
College of Law – No
Northumberland – No
BPP As a rebate and it looks like 7 for both sites
Cardiff – No
Nottingham – No
Bristol – No
Pass statistics – only Bristol
Pupillage Statistics – only Bristol although Manchester includes a warning that pupillage is hard to come by. However, Seahorse was told that the figures were:
Bristol: about 25% (now 30% according to the website)
BPP: 45-60%* (including those with a pupillage before taking up their place)
College of Law: 50%
The website’s are pretty shoddy on any view. I found the BPP website long on waffle and short on critical information. One can only hope it doesn’t produce barristers in the same mould. Cardiff was virtually useless (virtually – ha! Geddit?). Northumberland didn’t even really try to sell itself. Manchester, Nottingham, the ICSL and The College of Law sold themselves on the basis of waffle about dedicated teaching and contacts with the Bar. I would have thought that those things were a given, but perhaps not. Only Bristol has the guts to confront the difficult questions and to give truthful answers. Hats-off to them.
When I have a moment I shall get on the phone and ask some questions. In the meantime, if you know what the pass rates/pupillage rates are then please let me know. This would be helpful information.
Having paid your money to take the Chance card, I hope that you are getting decent careers advice. Please let me know.
As a cautionary tale, I have recently spoken to someone who had been advised by their BCL Tutor at Oxford that commercial law was out of the question for them because their BCL (!) result was not good enough. I was able to offer reassurance that getting a place on, and passing, the BCL was good enough for almost everyone, but it did make me wonder why Oxford University allowed such cobblers to be spoken in its name. The same ‘advisor’ also said that the qualifications held by my caller would ‘probably’ be good enough for crime and family law. The rampant snobbery implicit in such a comment should, in my view, persuade the University to allow the genius to try his hand at real practice and see how he gets on. I live in hope, but not much expectation…
I think the moral is to ask more than one person. And to read this site of course. In the hope that some of you, at least, are new readers, please read the posts on the top of the list which are designed to take you through the basics. And providing you keep your comments polite (ish), anything goes.
Good luck and try and enjoy yourselves, at least a little. Oh yes, and don’t behave like this when you qualify!